How to See in the Dark: A Practitioners’ Dialogue on Working with Darkness in Magic

By Goat, Stang and Key - Sarah Lawless

“The Earth is beautiful, and bright, and kindly, but that is not all. The Earth is also terrible, and dark, and cruel. The rabbit shrieks dying in the green meadows. The mountains clench their great hands full of hidden fire. There are sharks in the sea, and there is cruelty in men’s eyes.”

~ Ursula K. Le Guin, The Tombs of Atuan

In the darkness most people will huddle around the fire and look into its warm bright flames, but sometimes there is a person whose face turns away from the light and looks into the dark of night. They know the light blinds so one cannot see what hides in the shadows or see the beauty of the night with its moon, stars, nocturnal creatures, and dusky colours. Such persons who choose to see the unseen are often shamans, witches, spirit workers, and other walkers between worlds. Come with us away from the fire and learn how to see in the dark.

As above so below. As within so without. We are the children of Nature and so our nature’s reflect our progenitor. We are two sides of the same coin; bright and dark inseparably entwined.  We are good, kind, compassionate, and helpful, but we are also cruel, selfish, destructive, and wrathful. Each of us is capable of acting in benevolence or malevolence. If you truly know yourself and are able to look into the shadows of your own soul, you can make peace with your darkness and embrace it as a lover. To love oneself, or another, or a deity, or a spirit, one must wholly accept both sides of the coin and love ALL that one is. Cherry-picking will not be permitted if you choose to walk the path of Witchcraft for Nature and the Gods embody life, death, and rebirth – creation and destruction – and you cannot have one without the other. To worship life is to worship death. To worship light is to worship darkness. Too much light can lead to being blinded by reality and lacking in truth, honesty, and balance. Too much dark can lead to madness and ruin.

It is not evil to work with the underworld, the ancestors, the night, the moon, death, and bones. It is dark, but there is goodness in it. We fear the unknown and the unseen. Modern witches call the above and the gods, but they often ignore the underworld and the spirits of the dead in their circle castings and magics. The chthonic deities and ancestors are great allies with their vast store of ancient wisdom and knowledge of the other worlds… but if neglected and ignored they become as the uninvited fairy from Sleeping Beauty and we all know how well that worked out. Ignore the darkness within yourself and expect the same results.

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” I know when people try to judge me for working with darker magics that they are only acting out of fear of what is within themselves and fear of what they do not know. Because I embrace the darkness and shadows of my own nature, I accept that everyone contains light and shadow. Who am I to judge someone’s beliefs and practices? This is why I am accepting of and consort with darker practitioners alongside healers and white witches.

The wolf does not apologize to its dinner, the lightning to the tree it strikes, or the bee for its sting. As a witch I will not apologize for my nature. There is a reason poison plants are associated with us: they are poison and medicine, witch and witch doctor. There must be balance. Be too light in your measurements and nothing will happen, be to heavy handed and you will kill instead of cure. The witch is the fulcrum and magic is the lever. Accept responsibility for your power and accept there may be consequences for your actions. Complete awareness is key. Be grounded and balanced in your judgements before you perform magic. Be always clear headed and pure in intent whether the magic you will work belongs to the light or dark. In honesty and truth, with yourself and your spirits, you will find the balance.

~ Sarah Lawless, The Witch of Forest Grove


“…the belief that witches exist and that they can work supernaturally to the injury and even to the destruction of their enemies — is the heritage of the human race. The Englishman of the sixteenth or seventeenth century did not excogitate or dream it for himself, or borrow it from the Continent, or learn it from his spiritual advisers whether before the Reformation or after. He inherited it in an unbroken line from his primeval ancestors.”

~ George Lyman Kittredge, Witchcraft in Old and New England


At midnight upon my path the moon rides black underfoot and the dusty road sparkles overhead. The whole viridarium of arte lies astride my path, and in accordance with the deathless ones and my spiritus dictatus I make my way down crooked roads towards sabbats sometimes remarked as obscene, deranged, or blasphemous as they often contains sex, blood, bone, chthonic gods, and other items of ill repute amongst the current neopagan world. I oft look to antiquity to inspire my path and note the long and unbroken history of many types of magick which neopagans discard as “black,” and bring them in close to my heart in the silent stillness of night. I incorporate the light as well, I do not judge or discard merely based on what others concern themselves with.
Personally I do not define acts which I do as black nor white, as to do so marks actions themselves as evil, and not the intentions behind them. Doing a love spell for someone who isn’t yet ready for love is considered “evil” to me, but sprinkling some powders to get rid of an abusive boyfriend is not. My gods, spirits, and ancestors do not punish me because I defend another by attacking their aggressor, bind a rapist, blast a bigot, or curse a murderer. After much meditation, then confirmation with divination, these artes are worked; and when done so they are true, just, pure, and in accordance with the highest ethics and code of law I have: that between myself and my gods.
Further, I do not consider all acts of “darkness” as evil. Curses (acts of binding malefic magick onto someone) can often be done to protect others and help the target grow / become better (eg: “you shall feel a burning pain every time you hit another unjustly” and soon they stop hitting others); necromancy can be used to contact the dead and help bring closure to the death of a loved one, or cast out an unruly spirit from a simple couple’s new house; etc.
Many have turned up their nose at my work, or informed me of alternate ways I can accomplish my goals. Frequently these methods do not resonate, are inefficient, or wholly ineffective. I also question why I would wish to alter my path, when I am not feeling consternation over it as they are… and my methods work. Hence, I shall continue to walk my crooked road as it reveals itself to me, without judgements or boundaries (yet always within the confines of the law, naturally). My path, with all of it’s blooms & thorns, continually returns a bountiful harvest, and my life continues to evolve for the better for it.
~ Shivian Balaris, witch and potion-smith of Chicago


My father would speak of the spirits. He gave me his black bird or the black bird left him upon his death and joined me – I know not which, but I take his magick with my left hand. My black bird, eyes eternal, seer of all things. I stand within, looking out at the wondrous light. For our world is formed by this interplay, this dance of the dark and the light. She calls and he comes.

The black bird sits by my side. The bird informs my magick: For it is only when we stand in a place of darkness can we see what lies within. There is nothing hidden when one lives in this place for one can see what resides in the shadows and dark places, one can look out into the light but much is hidden when one stands in the light and looks into the dark. For in the darkness there is truth, the knowledge of self. For me the dark is closest to divinity itself, the journey of one’s soul toward Oneness. It is a journey of self for no other can make this journey but you.

That all creation begins in this place of darkness. It is a place where the spirits dwell. For within the dark all potential resides in its wonder and promise. For within the dark all that is yet to be and all that has been resides. We spend the formative years of our existence in our mother’s dark womb. Our world is about constant change, about birth, living and dying for despite our yearning for grace we consume other souls to survive. We sleep and spend a large part of our lives in the dark. Our earth is embraced by the deep darkness of space, everything in existence is embraced by her loving embrace. The Dark Lady calls and the Lord of Light comes, he comes to her every dawn, for he is the bringer of the light; her lover, her brother, her son. He stands in his magnificent glory. They dance to the cosmic song. For we ourselves are born from this union, the darkness embracing the light. My magick is a product of this dance, this journey toward the One. For I am as dark as my black bird.

~ Mel Tomlinson, Elder of the Wolven Path


Freya, beautiful sweet Freya. She enjoys a large following as a patroness of love, sensuality, and beauty, but I have found many of my colleagues do not acknowledge her triplicity. Most I find simply are unaware of her status as a triple goddess. As well received as she certainly is around many a frithgarth, horns held high giving praise to her, some might change their perspective should they truly know her. Most know her from tales such as that of the brisingamen, or when Thor had to dress as her to trick a frost giant who wanted to wed her in order to retrieve his hammer. However, Freya and her brother Freyr, being the timeless “lord” and “lady” of assorted other European traditions (and even enjoying new popularity by ignorant new age practitioners unbeknownst to them, oblivious to their true origins), have much less romantic aspects.
Our lady is the mother, maiden, and crone that is Freya, Heidi, and Gullveig. As Gullveig she, being the “old one”, begat sorcery itself! Our lady also lay with Loki and bore Hel, the world serpent, and Fenrir as Agnriboda the jotun! Her various aspects are a bit alarming perhaps at first, though they are very natural to the milieu of reality. She and her male counterpart Odin both head up the pantheon and have many names and disguises. She is none other than Hecate of the witches trident; Nuit, Babalon, and Lilith! To truly know her is to embrace her for what she truly is. She is still beauty and love and sensual pleasure, however, she is attested to in Voluspa (Benjamin Thorpe translation):
“Heid they called her, whitherso’er she came, the well foreseeing volva, wolves she tamed, magic arts she knew, magic arts she practiced, ever was she the joy of evil people.”
Let this revelation not sway you from her company, as the All Father himself has quite a reputation for a “dark side” being the “stirrer of strife” and a well documented history for the use of brutality, deceit, and generally doing whatever he deemed necessary to accomplish his will. The temple of Set among others recognize, as does myself through my own unverified personal gnosis, that Odin is Set, Pan, Lucifer, Ra-hoor-khuit to name but a few. In Scandinavian satanism, the terms Odin and Satan are used interchangeably. Being Pan, he is everything, the whole of good and evil in nature. Perspective is everything and Odin as well as Freya, being representative of the divine masculine and feminine respectively, are the grace that feed the starving wolf cubs and the diabolical killer of the rabbit to be said meal. All is as it must be.”
~ H.J. Winkleman, the wolf wizard of Warren, Ohio


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  • Melanie says:

    Thank you, I’ve really enjoyed reading this post and all your posts. The embracing of the dark has a particular resonance for me and I appreciate the earthiness of the pieces you have chosen, not that I would have expected anything less 😉
    Time for a cup of tea and to read on…

  • Nikkie says:

    I love the synchronicity! I was involved in a somewhat heated debate a few days ago about this exact topic. Needless to say it was with neopagans and needless to say that some of them have unfriended me since. Fear could be a terrible friend sometimes. As with ego we need a healthy dose of fear to teach us respect which is the most important thing to have when walking in the underworld. I do not apologise or feel I need to explain why I’d rather sit with my back to the fire, I just do it because it is what feels right for me. I am grateful for this confirmation.

  • Steve Tanner says:

    An excellent post. I find it interesting that you mention “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” It has been a mystery to me how one can confess sins without looking into their own darkness, but then judge those who do look into the darkness. We cannot understand the mysteries of life if we are not willing to embrace life fully.

  • judith says:

    What powerful voices!

    I agree with you (and them) but I am also in awe of your skill and vision.

  • Natalie D says:

    Thank you so much for this post. I love what you have to say about embracing both sides as one; for the longest time I have lived in guilt for practicing magic that wasn’t always “white light” because I was under the impression that to do so was to be a “bad person”. I was surrounded by those kinds of fearful people. Thankfully, reading your work (and others) has helped me break out of that guilty shell and embrace my balanced nature. Your words are wise, Sarah. You are a great help!

  • lcward says:

    Sarah I love your piece but I disagree with what Winkleman says. It’s insulting to Angrboda as a goddess in her own rite to simply say that thats a cover story for a more popular goddess.

    • Freya says:

      May I ask what kind of research you have to confirm that sentiment? Just curious. Why could she not be an aspect of Freya?

      • lcward says:

        There is no lore to say Freya or Odin were anyone but who they were. Why should we dismiss Hecate, Lilith, Set, Pan, Lucifer and the others and attribute them all to our “favorite” Gods? Isn’t that presumptuous and ego-driven and a bit of an appropriation? There is no Scandinavian satanism, Satanism being an offshoot of Christianity and not wholly concerned with our Gods. To just relabel is… just an insult.

      • lcward says:

        Oh, I base 90% of my knowledge on the Eddas. I forgot to say. 🙂 The rest is UPG, mine and others.

      • Mr. Synchronicity says:

        So in other words, you have nothing except a dislike of synchronicity. That’s fine by me if you’re a “hard” poly theist, but a rose by any other name? You should be better than that. The eddas are really no different than the bible, do you believe Thor to be truly flying across the sky pulled by goats? Of course you do, well I don’t. The gods are expressions of natural forces timeless and nameless, so my lumping a few together is only to say thanks, Domo, Danke. Minds much more enlightened than your own have applauded my sentiments, so you can just go on. A major influence of my thought comes from a well known PHD, within the Temple of Set, AKA the #1 occult think tank in NA. I pull from his research and our emails, so sorry my opinions offend you so!

  • “From Her eternal darkness came forth the Morning and the Evening stars leading Her own to Her dominion of Light within the Void.”

    An excellent post as always. Thank you all authors.

  • From the darkness cometh light!

  • “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.” – JRR Tolkien

  • Daniel says:

    People fearfully talk about the dangers of the dark, but wouldn’t denying the darkness actually be more dangerous than not?

    I’ll quote LeGuin, too (she rocks!):

    “Only in silence the word,
    Only in dark the light,
    Only in dying life:
    Bright the hawk’s flight
    On the empty sky.”

  • greycatsidhe says:

    Great post. Actually, I think the first time I realized the dark side of nature was when I was young and heard the dying shriek of a rabbit in the forest. It lasted for some time but, when it was over, the more “peaceful” night sounds continued. I remember sitting up and thinking about the death and how nature just went back to normal. That is the way of it.

    I have slowly been coming to terms with my darker half over the years. The darker me is a jealous, passionate, proud, quick-tempered bitch. I wonder if I will ever fully accept her… lol.

  • Thanks again for another thought-provoking blog. When I was a Wiccan I met other neopagans who were very hesitant to discuss such topics as darkness, death, cursing, etc. The cruel aspects of the gods and goddesses were briefly glossed over as being a simple matter of darkness keeping the balance with the light. However, I’ve always had an innate curiosity, as I’m sure which most of us on here have had, to peer into the “night” and explore the darker nature behind things. I don’t believe that such subjects should be considered as taboo. There’s darkness on any true spiritual path and it’s up to us to decide if we want actively confront, engage, and integrate it into our lives. If the witch or practitioner conducts him or herself with the utmost reverence for their path, has a clear head, listens to the counsel of the spirits as well as their own, then they should be able to walk with dignity without being apologetic.

  • earthfeet says:

    Also not particularly fond of equating Freyja with Angrboda and Gullveig. Most UPG I’m familar with considers them separate Goddesses, though perhaps that’s because most Northern Tradition Pagans and Heathens are polytheists.

  • Salena says:

    I love most of your blogs. I will say, as one who walks the Northern path, I absolutely disagree with the excerpt you provided here about the Northern Gods. This person is rolling all the Goddesses into different aspects of Freya. I adore Freya and do work with Her- she has many faces I will agree.

    However, Freya is NOT Angrboda. I am Angrboda’s- they are not the same Goddess under differing names.

    I also have no idea where this man came up with the concept that Odin and Satan can be used interchangeably in Scandinavia. That’s the first time I’ve heard this and it’s causing quite a row in heathen forums!! The Northern Traditions don’t have a ‘satan’ as such, there is even a joke about new heathens coming into the path and looking for a ‘nordic satan.’ It doesn’t exist.

    Following my Gods as I do, I just had to comment that this H.J. Winkleman’s opinion is most certainly not held by the thousands of heathen and northern magical practitioners I know or can get ahold of online. It is a polytheistic path – we don’t roll our Gods and Goddesses into one.

    Admittedly, he isn’t claiming to be heathen and said it’s his own thoughts.

  • For those who commented on the wolf-wizard’s contribution:

    belief 1. something believed; an opinion or conviction

    My friend is a syncretist as am I – it is not a popular belief in modern paganism (especially not among hard polytheists and reconstructionists), but it is as valid as the more common theisms. He and I have had long discussions about the Devil and do not equate him with Christianity but rather with “devil-like” trickster gods such as Loki, Odin, Pan, Hermes, Prometheus, Set…. not that they are all one necessarily, but they all embody that same nature in their various pantheons. So by satanism in this instance, he means luciferianism.

    That’s mercury in retro for you – sometimes we forget that others have different personal terminologies and belief systems. What can you do? *shrugs*

    • lcward says:

      Sarah, thank you for the clarification. That makes much more sense. I can see the trickster aspect in all of the faces he named here and can understand how they would be worshiped in Luciferian witchcraft. I’m not a fan of synchronicity myself but its a very viable faith-model for those who do.

  • lcward says:

    “Mr. Synchronicity March 31, 2012 at 11:55 am

    So in other words, you have nothing except a dislike of synchronicity. That’s fine by me if you’re a “hard” poly theist, but a rose by any other name? You should be better than that. The eddas are really no different than the bible, do you believe Thor to be truly flying across the sky pulled by goats? Of course you do, well I don’t. The gods are expressions of natural forces timeless and nameless, so my lumping a few together is only to say thanks, Domo, Danke. Minds much more enlightened than your own have applauded my sentiments, so you can just go on. A major influence of my thought comes from a well known PHD, within the Temple of Set, AKA the #1 occult think tank in NA. I pull from his research and our emails, so sorry my opinions offend you so!”

    I am not offended by you or your opinions. What offends me is when you speak for all of us in one big whitewashed statement. One person’s research does not negate the faith of thousands. Just because you say “the gods are expressions of natural forces timeless and nameless” does not make it so. Do I believe that Thor flies by goat power? I don’t know, never seen him do that so I have no idea. I’m willing to admit that the Eddas, just like the bible, are man-made. But as a shaman, I do have my own experiences with the gods, and like Selena said above, when you work one-on-one with a Goddess, you have to say “No, Freya and Angrboda are NOT the same entity under a different name.” UPG has its rightful place in our lives, as we seek to rebuild our faiths in our modern times. You cannot discount as fairy tales that which doesn’t fit into your picture.

    • Mr. Synchronicity says:

      I work with the gods of the Germanic pantheon only because they resonate with me the most being my ancestral archetypes. Philosophically I adhere to a Thelemic/Setian standpoint. Meaning these forces we call gods are a means to an end, they have nothing if not for us. Our consciousness gives them everything. Making us well at least those capable, god incarnate. Faith based currents are flimsy and disappointing at the end of the day. Luciferian? Yes, ill take that anyday! A quick mention of the Scandinavian satanism thing, it most certainly does exist. Traditional satanism can be proven as early as the 1890’s with Pryzbyszewski, Dagny Juel as well as the people surrounding Edvard Munch the painter, he was in an organization with August Strindburg the Swedish playwright and author. They equated Satan with Odin, think about it, for hundreds of years of conversion persecution all they heard was that Odin was Satan in disguise.

      • Mr. Synchronicity says:

        Oh yes, and Sarah is correct. Neither of us believe in The xtian devil as it were!!! Figure I need to clarify to save confusion. Although by xtian definition ALL gods but Christ are the devil, now that’s serious sychronicty!!! At least I break them down into groups that make sense to me!!

  • Thank you for sharing so much wisdom and eloquence, as always. What a beautiful chorus of voices.

    While the Tolkien quote earlier resonated well with me, I’d like to reinforce (and agree, if I understood you) that not to act is also to act. To withhold effective action may itself be evil – or at the least, tragic. It’s true that even the wise make mistakes, but if no one acted or judged on matters that involve darkness and risk, we’d have no chemotherapy, no surgery, no way to stop murderers and rapists, no fight for positive change. Trying to live by daisies and sunshine alone kills. If this is true in life, why not in magick as a part of life? As we have no shared magickal “government” to make these decisions for us, it falls to us to strive to act wisely. I have the deepest respect for those with the courage to face the darkness and engage it with the best intentions.

    • I wholeheartedly agree. It was not my intention to counsel inaction, but caution.
      The quotation is what I distilled from a much longer reply which had become quite labyrinthine, owing to the complex and contradictory nature of the subject matter. As you so eloquently put it, “to face the darkness and engage it with the best intentions”, the darkness both within and without, is a vital part of the work. I don’t dispute that, nor the need to descend into the underworld and work there.
      My unease is that I am reading how witches extoll and embrace the Shadow in the abstract, without acknowledging that we as human beings have a moral dimension to our actions, unlike animals, gods or forces of nature.
      It has also brought up for me, the dissonance between admiring the cold, the cruel, the dark and destructive forces of nature, while reviling the humans who embody those forces in their actions – abusers, murderers, rapists, bigots. For me this highlights the need for clarity in the distinction between forces of nature and human behaviour, the ethical component that I feel needs much more thorough contemplation and clarification as we walk these shadowed and crooked paths.

      • Darkness does not equal immorality or cursing or killing or raping – we were in no way supporting such behaviours. I had hoped we were clear in that, but that assumption is why this topic needs an open dialogue in our community so badly.

        This essay wasn’t about ethics, just practitioners thoughts and experiences working with the darker side of magic and nature as I didn’t want to rewrite what has already been written – hence the inclusion of the links at the end of the article, particularly “The Ethics of Malevolence“. I also covered a lot of moral ground in “Maintaining a Healthy Level of Skepticism.”

        Nature does have morals and the “human” understanding of sentience has been radically changing in the past decade and a recent work released last year has been significantly aiding in that: The Moral Lives of Animals

  • I agree entirely with the distinction between darkness and ethical considerations! I don’t believe, either, that the darkness in nature can be equated or compared to bigotry or abuse. As was so clearly stated earlier, a wolf does not apologize to its meal – but I don’t believe that makes a wolf comparable to a murderer. My intention was to support the use of dark as well as light methods separately from moral choices (i.e. you can use “dark” things for good just as you can use “light” things for evil). I didn’t mean to muddy the discussion by bringing up examples of evil in human society – it was on my mind because of previous mentions, especially Shivian Balaris’ words.

    I believe that it is an entirely amoral thing – rather than immoral – to “embrace the Shadow.” Just as a surgeon is not evil for admiring a sharp blade.

    • It is my contention that nothing about human volition is amoral; we are necessarily moral beings and any of our actions beyond fundamental physiological existence have to be viewed in a moral context.

      I think my problem is that I am not clear on what specifically is meant by ’embracing the Shadow’. What specific things and qualities are you embracing? From what I read in the comments above, I see death, decay, brutality, cruelty, selfishness, madness, vengeance, destruction as ‘shadow’ qualities of the natural world. In Sarah’s, “Ethics of Malevolence”, defense of self or others when we are powerless in material situations is used as a justification for cursing, and cursing necessarily evokes these qualities in order to be effective. Am I wrong in this understanding of what I’m reading?

      (On the topic of the “Ethics of Malevolence” post, which I read prior to my first comment, I have to agree with Apuleius Platonicus).

      • I think perhaps you might benefit from reading the article another time or two as the pieces were written in the style of prose rather than an instructional style and there is much subtlety.

        By embracing the shadow side of magic we work with the dark moon, dreams and visions, spirits, bones, necromancy, ancestor worship, ritual possession, entheogens and poisonous plants traditional to witchcraft… By embracing the shadow side of ourselves, we are able to see the things we hide from ourselves and others in the subconscious – pain and hurt, scars, darker emotions – and we are able to bring them out into the light so they may be dealt with and healed so we find balance again.

        “It is not evil to work with the underworld, the ancestors, the night, the moon, death, and bones. It is dark, but there is goodness in it.” – me

        “…necromancy can be used to contact the dead and help bring closure to the death of a loved one” – Shivian

        “For it is only when we stand in a place of darkness can we see what lies within. There is nothing hidden when one lives in this place for one can see what resides in the shadows and dark places, one can look out into the light but much is hidden when one stands in the light and looks into the dark. For in the darkness there is truth, the knowledge of self. For me the dark is closest to divinity itself, the journey of one’s soul toward Oneness.” – Mel

  • ladyimbrium says:

    I’m well satisfied to see more people remembering this and calling greater attention to it. Maybe it’s because my daily life reminds me just how base humans can be. Maybe it’s because I recognize some of the terrible things I see as a mirror of my own potential.

    And yet cruelty and malicious action are not synonymous with darkness- they are one subset within.

    I always enjoy your posts.

  • Drew Jacob says:

    I enjoy this post, because I too love the poetry and teachings of the darker gods. But I disagree with some of the philosophy here, especially Shivian’s.

    Should rapists be punished, and bigots marginalized? Yes.

    Should a lone individual get to choose who’s a bigot or a rapist, and decide what the punishment will be? Ten kinds of no.

    If we’re assuming that our spells actually accomplish something and aren’t just little feel-good spiritual exercises, then a curse is a weapon. I’m all for weapons, but I’m also for a samurai-like respect of them and some kind of restraint in their use.

    There’s a reason people who own guns don’t get to shoot anyone they think did something wrong. They might misjudge someone. Even if their judgement is sound, as soon as they are making solo choices on who lives and who dies, no one can trust them. There’s no transparency, and nobody can be sure they’re safe around such an individual.

    Which probably has a lot to do with why witches are feared instead of hailed as saviors.

  • Sal the Spider says:

    I love this post 🙂 I think of Yin and Yang …there is never wholly “good” (or “light” or “well” or “happy” etc) such as there is never wholly “bad” “dark” etc each holds some of the other within it in the same way that each needs the other to exist at all…how can we have good if there is nothing comparative?
    There is so much that I would love to say on this matter but I will spare you all as I cannot find the eloquence to say it logically or succinctly – the subject matter defies it 🙂
    Again, Sarah you (and your other talented posters) have done the job beautifully, many thanks

  • shivian says:

    I’m sorry it’s taken me so long to respond to this post! Thank you, Sarah, for the ability to have contributed to such a wonderful group of voices, and thank you to everyone who’s commented, even with discenting views! I deeply feel that it’s only by discussing these points that we’ll slowly accept, then begin to manifest these “dark” forces in healthier ways. Ignoring them, hiding from them, or denying them will only drag us to greater unhealthy states of imbalance over time.

  • toadwurzel says:

    Love this !!!! I find it hard to separate the “Light” from the “Dark” seeing as they constantly seem to blend and meld into each other. To me understanding/ working with the dark side is the only way to come to terms with the light and without both there is no conceiving the whole. Darkness is too often unfairly equated with evil. Death begets Life, Life begets Death etc. etc.